Saturday, February 18, 2023

Blogaround

1. This important thread:

2. This whole thread:

3. This School Has the Worst Fire Safety Policy You've Ever Seen (2013) Okay I know this is from 2013, but I just saw it shared on Twitter and I am gobsmacked. (Also he links to a related post that he wrote but his link is broken, here is the correct link for that one.) Hemant Mehta literally emailed Pensacola Christian College to ask for clarification, and they replied twice, but somehow they aren't able to say the words "getting out of a burning building is MORE IMPORTANT then dressing modestly."

(I've heard a lot of horror stories about PCC from Samantha Field's blog...)

4. The recent kerfluffle on twitter is that some pastor told a story about how he was minding his own business at a restaurant and then the SEXIEST WOMAN EVER came and hit on him- the consensus on twitter is that this never happened, and now we are analyzing the cultural environment that these stories come from/ the reasons that a male pastor would make up a story like this (and this is a whole genre- it's not like this is the only example).

This thread is good:

5. The Princess Bride (1987) -- Ace Mini-Review (February 17) "Unlike many rom coms, which treat True Love as a universal goal everyone should be searching for, The Princess Bride presents it as practically unattainable.  And, as an ace-spectrum person, I actually find that comforting."

6. Extremely Hardcore (January 17) About Twitter employees' experiences after Musk took over. Yikes.

7. Microsoft “lobotomized” AI-powered Bing Chat, and its fans aren’t happy (February 18)

8. Far From Home: Meet the Migrants Returning to Shanghai (February 16) "On Sunday, Sixth Tone visited an underground parking lot at the Shanghai Railway Station, where a temporary shelter has been set up for returning workers. Since public transportation closes at midnight, many migrant workers find it too expensive to stay at hotels or book taxis. Instead, they stay overnight to catch the earliest metro to their next job."

And 2 more articles, also from Sixth Tone:

How the Pandemic Left China’s Migrant Kids Behind (February 16) "Less encouraging is the data from the last three years. Although reliable statistics are hard to come by, education figures suggest that the pandemic has reversed some of the progress of the past decade and separated large numbers of children from their migrant parents."

Chinese Teams in Turkey: Rescue Over but Relief Will Take Years (February 17) "As the world pledged to help, China was among the first, offering aid, equipment, and personnel. While the government announced 40 million yuan ($5.8 million) in aid, official estimates suggest that nearly 300 personnel, both sent by the government and from independent organizations such as Blue Sky Rescue and Ramunion, have joined the rescue effort."

9. Christian Leaders Are Sharing Their Experiences at the Asbury Revival (February 15) 

10. There is no sleeping giant (February 17) "That all-or-nothing view of revival will only ever produce the latter result. It will never bring 'revival.' I’m not sure it will even allow it."

11. After the ‘miracles’: Turkey, Syria, and long-term recovery (February 10) 

"There is no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred": What people do with "revival"

Image text: "Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly. Micah 6:8" Image source.

My posts on the Asbury revival:

February 13 Blogaround
"There is no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred": What people do with "revival"
Does God Use Miracles To Take Sides? 
The Logistics of a Revival 
Why I Don't Want to be at a "Revival"

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So, about what's going on at Asbury University.

Why students at a Kentucky Christian school are praying and singing round the clock (February 14)

Last Wednesday (Feb. 8), students at Asbury University gathered for their biweekly chapel service in the 1,500-seat Hughes Auditorium.

They sang. They listened to a sermon. They prayed.

Nearly a week later, many of them are still there.

“This has been an extraordinary time for us,” Asbury President Kevin Brown said during a gathering on Monday, more than 120 hours into what participants have referred to as a spiritual revival.

The revival has disrupted life and brought national attention to Asbury, an evangelical Christian school in Wilmore, Kentucky, about a half-hour outside of Lexington. Videos of students singing, weeping and praying have been posted on social media, leading to both criticism and praise from onlookers. News of the revival has also drawn students and other visitors to the campus to take part in the ongoing prayer and worship.

(I have some Facebook friends who have gone to see this revival and written about it on Facebook. A lot of people in evangelical circles are talking about it.)

See the Slacktivist's post about it: Revive us again (again), and also what I wrote in my latest blogaround.

So, first what I want to say is: I believe in God. I'm a Christian. Therefore I believe that it is at least theoretically possible that God does sometimes come and "pour out Their spirit" in a certain place, and people there do feel Their presence and have very strong emotional/spiritual experiences. Yes, it's at least theoretically possible, but I believe we should always be skeptical of any actual reports of this actually happening. Because it is much more likely to be caused by the way the music and the environment of the worship space manipulate people's emotions- and this can be used in nefarious ways by Christian leaders who know what they're doing.

So, I see articles from Christian sources about what's going on in Asbury, and I do feel like there's something real about it. Like God really has chosen to cause Their presence to be powerfully felt there. (Maybe I'm wrong though, who knows? I have ex-Christian Twitter friends who are side-eyeing the entire thing, and I get that.) My *feeling* is there really is at least a part of this that's from God- I don't think it's *all* because of someone's skill at playing emotionally-manipulative music or whatever- and I say that because what's happening at Asbury is very grassroots and student-led. 

But that doesn't mean that Christians who describe what's happening, or say "this is what it means," are right about that.

There's what God does, and then there's how people respond to it.

It makes me think about the healing of the man at the pool, in John 5:1-15. "Now there is in Jerusalem near the Sheep Gate a pool, which in Aramaic is called Bethesda and which is surrounded by five covered colonnades. Here a great number of disabled people used to lie—the blind, the lame, the paralyzed. [footnote, only found in some manuscripts: and they waited for the moving of the waters. From time to time an angel of the Lord would come down and stir up the waters. The first one into the pool after each such disturbance would be cured of whatever disease they had.]" Apparently this was the way God worked at this miraculous pool.

But it's not just about how God works, it's about how people respond. Jesus sees a man who had been sick for 38 years, and the sick man says, "Sir, I have no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred. While I am trying to get in, someone else goes down ahead of me." Like... should someone have taken charge and set up a system where new people couldn't cut in front of people who had been waiting there for years, who were too disabled to get into the water? Or... maybe not... something seems kind of wrong about people putting rules and restrictions on a miracle, setting up neat systems to make it work according to their own opinions about who God "should" heal first... but at the same time, it wasn't fair to this guy, right?

I've heard that at Asbury, some Christian celebrities have shown up, and the students there do NOT let them have the stage. The worship music on stage is student-led. Whoever is in charge there doesn't want anyone to co-opt it for their own purposes. Maybe someone should have done something like that at the pool in Bethesda.

But if you're making decisions on who can or can't have the stage, then that aspect of it is from humans, not God. But there is no alternative- if no one puts a restriction there, then inevitably some power-hungry person will use it for their own ambitions/ political goals/ etc.

There's what God does, and then there's how people respond to it.

I believe in a God who lets people have the freedom to respond- and to be wrong sometimes. God does something, and then some believer says "God did this in my life, and this is what it means" and maybe their explanation on "this is what it means" is so completely different from God's actual opinion. But what is God going to do- only allow people who are right about everything to have spiritual experiences? Mind-control people to make sure they have the correct opinion about their spiritual experience?

I believe in a God who is a full person with Their own opinions and Their own experiences, and people are created in the image of God- God wants people to all be free to have their own opinions and their own experiences. It's not about making sure everyone knows the "right answer" about every issue- that's not important to my God at all. God does things and lets people make of it whatever they want. (Death of the author, I guess.)

And maybe I have an opinion and I believe that God shouldn't do those "spiritual experience" sorts of things, because of how people take it... like taking it as confirmation that all their already-held beliefs about God are true. I think about when God rescued Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from the fiery furnace (Daniel 3), and I wonder if there was some other friend of theirs who was also very devoted to God, and made a nuanced argument about why it's okay to pretend to bow down to the statue, and so he wasn't thrown into the fiery furnace, and didn't experience the miracle, and then... then what? What does that do to his faith? (Maybe someday I'll find the time to write a bible fanfic on this.)

For me, actually, it used to be that a big part of this was wanting "evidence" that God exists. When I was evangelical, that's what I wanted. I was always very aware of atheism, and always fighting it... wanting a "spiritual experience" because then that would be "evidence"- wanting to investigate other people's accounts of their own spiritual experiences, to prove atheism wrong. 

Now I don't care about that anymore, though- now I would say I have more in common with atheists who criticize Christianity, than with conservative Christians. I don't think being wrong about the existence or non-existence of God really matters as much. So I hear about this revival, and my concern isn't about if it's "real" or not. It doesn't matter to me if it's real or not. It matters what people do with it. Are people going to say "and this means that God is confirming I was right about how being queer is a sin/ God is confirming I was right about how being queer is not a sin" etc etc etc?

(Maybe we should say that these spiritual experiences shouldn't be used to prop up one side or the other in a culture war- but isn't that what happened in Acts 10:44-48? There was the question of whether Gentiles could be Christians, or if only Jewish people could- and the Holy Spirit came on the Gentiles and they spoke in tongues, and that was evidence for which side of the argument God was on. Couldn't a similar thing happen, where God's spirit is clearly present in queer Christians, and that's evidence that the church should be queer-affirming? To some extent I think that has happened but in a more long-term sense- there are Christians who changed their minds because they got to know queer Christians and saw that the queer Christians really are devoted to God, etc.)

And I know a lot of Christians want to have these kinds of spiritual experiences, to have that feeling, to feel God's presence. Chasing that emotion, specifically. I'm not into that anymore either. I have boundaries with God; I've decided I won't have a "personal relationship" with any god. I won't be vulnerable to any god in that way. I've had spiritual experiences like this before, but I don't feel I need that now.

Like, honestly, I'm not on board with the idea that we "need" this kind of "revival." I'm not on board with Christians who long for it (because that's often tied up with ideas about Christians getting more political power...). It's just an emotional experience. Like, okay sure it's the presence of God or whatever, but, God is always with us. Where can I go from Your spirit, where can I flee from Your presence? We don't need God giving us our own personal little emotional experiences- we need to bring justice to the earth. Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly with God.

(Also I'm giving a lot of side-eye to Christians who uncritically accept that this really is a "revival", and don't have any concerns about it, and are like "let's pray for it to happen at our church too!")

Actually, I want to say a bit about where these emotional spiritual experiences figure into evangelical culture. I've been to Christian conferences where the worship service goes on a while and people are like "God is here!" and ... I would say the result of this is the way it inspires the people who experience it. The emotions of it can be so strong, that it's something that stays with you for years, and you base your life on it. There was one conference I was at, in college, that as I was kneeling in the front, with the worship music playing, I had this idea to start 2 bible study groups. And then I ended up actually doing it, over the next few months. I was inspired, I had that emotional experience, and I went on to do it. (At the same time, I wonder about people who made these big commitments about all the things they were going to do for God, during high-emotion spiritual experiences, and then don't end up doing them- I really wonder about the statistics on that.) And... I mean, yeah, hopefully people are inspired to do things that are good, but this is limited by the ideology you already believe in. Like, in those 2 bible study groups I started, I did that because I believed my friends needed God, and needed to become Christians. I don't believe that any more.

There's what God does, and then there's how people respond.

And I've been to Urbana (Intervarsity's huge missions conference). And it is a known phenomenon, that people "get the call to missions" at Urbana- like, you're having these emotional spiritual experiences, and in the midst of that, you feel like God is "calling" you to go be a missionary in some country. Actually, when I wanted to go to China, I didn't have that experience- and I worried SO MUCH that I wasn't "allowed" to go to China because God didn't "call" me. Like it was something I can't just choose to do myself, I can't just say "here are my reasons"- it's only valid if it just pops into my head as a random thought during a very spiritual experience. It really gave me a lot of angst back then, choosing to move to China because I wanted to, not because "God" "called" me.

Anywayyyy, maybe this post is all over the place, but I just want to write these things down... My point is, I think it's real, at least to some extent, but the important thing isn't if it's real, it's what people do with it. 

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Follow-up post: Does God Use Miracles To Take Sides?

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Related:

My Urbana 12 Commitment Card

"You Weren't There, the Night Jesus Found Me" 

When God Agreed That a Crush Was Dangerous

The things I've never let myself say about worship

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Some tweets (after the jump):

Thursday, February 16, 2023

Totally Baffled, in an Asexual Way (or, my review of "Let's Talk About Love")

Book cover for "Let's Talk About Love" by Claire Kann. Image source.

The Carnival of Aces topic for this month is "Representation in Fiction". I recently read the book Let's Talk About Love [affiliate link], which is a romance novel about an asexual character, so for this month's carnival I'll write my review/opinions on it.

So, this was the first time I went and read a book specifically because it's ace fiction and was recommended by ace bloggers. ("ace" means the asexual spectrum) Usually I don't really seek out fiction with ace characters. I read a lot of fanfic, and typically the ones I like are fanfics where the characters have to have sex because of some contrived external reason, which I wrote more about in my post Let me tell you about a fanfic that reminded me of my marriage. Usually they're not ace characters. 

(Maybe I should read more ace fiction...?)

All this is to say, maybe I'm not the right person to be reviewing ace fiction? I can only talk about how much it related to my own experiences. I can't really talk about what the ace community as a whole needs from ace fiction. The ace community is big and diverse, and we need fictional characters representing all of that. I'm just 1 person.

So this isn't, like, an Ace Review of "Let's Talk About Love." This is, like... Perfect Number's Opinions.

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Ace concepts

Ah actually I do have 1 thing to say from a more general "this is an ace review" perspective: This book includes a bunch of concepts which aces talk about a lot, such as

  • aesthetic attraction
  • romantic attraction/ romantic orientation
  • strong friendships which can be even more important than romantic relationships
  • experiencing arousal unconnected to attraction/ being confused about how arousal connects to attraction

This is great, I'm glad these concepts were featured in the book. The way these concepts fit as completely normal aspects of Alice's life felt very real to me. (Alice is the main character. She is a biromantic asexual.)

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My overall feelings

It was an enjoyable read! I liked it! Could be useful for people who are younger than me and trying to figure themselves out.

But, my overall feeling was... I just feel very confused about why the question of whether or not Alice is going to have sex with someone she's dating is such a big deal. Like, why would you have sex just because you're dating? Why would that even be a thing? She's 19. 19 is way too young to be having sex, right? (Uh the statistics say that around 55% of people have sex for the first time by age 18... so... I'm wrong... this is a true fact but it just makes no sense to me...) Why is everyone in this book acting like her unwillingness to have sex is this huge obstacle that makes it impossible for her to date?

I just can't get my head around it- but actually, this is a really common ace experience. I have read blog posts from aces who said things like "I had a boyfriend/girlfriend in high school, and I didn't want to have sex but I thought I had to, because that's what you have to do when you're dating, so I had sex." (Which also happened to Alice.) 

This is just so completely different than the ideology I believed in at that age. I 100% bought into Christian purity culture, which said "of course no one is supposed to be having sex before marriage. Yeah, sure, statistically most people do, but you shouldn't pay attention to that because it's bad and wrong. You're better than them." (Which, yikes, feeling superior to other people because of what sexual experience you do or don't have is NOT COOL.)

I just have so much trouble comprehending the concept of high school kids having sex. Or college-age kids having sex. Sex is complicated and weird and confusing, and I was not at a place where I had the emotional maturity to deal with it, until I was done with college and living on my own. (Though honestly in my case this probably was less related to age and more related to the fact that that's when I was questioning purity culture.) I'm glad I never actually considered the question of *me* having sex, when I was in high school or college. It's just too big of a question, and I didn't have the information back then to make good decisions about it.

I'm not trying to judge anybody... I have friends (who aren't asexual) who had sex in high school or college and they feel like that was fine, they were emotionally mature enough for it. Probably "emotionally mature" isn't even the term I should be using here, because "mature" sounds like a positive thing- kind of makes it sound like it's "good" if you're able to choose to have sex, and "bad" if you don't feel like you're at a place in your life where sex makes sense. Maybe what I actually mean is being emotionally mature enough to make good decisions about sex- and "yes" and "no" can both be good decisions depending on your situation.

And yes, this is a common ace experience- feeling like you're "supposed" to have sex with the person you're dating. So it's good that this book is talking about this. Even though it's so far from my experience and I was just completely baffled at how this could possibly be enough of an issue to be the main conflict of the book.

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The plot

Here's my summary of the plot: Alice's girlfriend breaks up with her because the girlfriend thinks Alice isn't performing the right emotions during sex. This makes Alice feel like as an asexual she shouldn't date someone who can't accept her asexuality. 

Then Alice meets this guy, Takumi, who is SO CUTE she can't even believe it. They get to know each other, they start spending time together every day, he tells her she's beautiful, she tells him she likes him, they often hug, etc- at this point I thought that added up to "they are dating" but apparently not? At this point in the book, Alice is all worried about "I want to date him, but how will I tell him I'm asexual? And maybe I shouldn't date him at all because he'll want to have sex and I just don't want to be in a relationship that has that expectation."

[spoilers]

Eventually she tells him she's asexual. He says it doesn't change his feelings for her, but that makes her confused because there's still the issue of how they can date if she's not willing to have sex, and he hasn't really said anything about that. Eventually they have more conversations about it- she says there's a possibility that someday she would have sex again, but she doesn't want to be in a relationship where her partner expects that from her. And eventually Takumi decides that he loves her enough that he's okay with being in a relationship where they're not having sex. Hooray, the end.

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But yeah, like I said, I was just so totally confused because, why do they have to figure out whether they're going to have sex before they even start dating??? I view sex as an extremely far-off thing... to me this feels like trying to figure out if you want to marry this person, before you even start dating. (Which, yikes, I'm an ex-purity-culture girl, and that's a little too real... in purity culture I really did believe you should know if you're likely to marry the person, before you even start dating.) Like, why not just have fun together and see where it leads? Who even says the relationship will go far enough that having sex becomes an actual possibility? 

I mean, hey, maybe Alice is thinking much more long-term than me? Like eventually the person she's dating will want to have sex with her, and will break up because she refuses, and she wants to avoid that altogether. Is that it? Or is it, like... like people have the expectation that people who are dating are having sex, more or less right from the start of their relationship? (??? This is so confusing to me.)

It's like... if someone was so totally worried because they have a crush on someone and want to date, but what if their crush wants to go rock-climbing? Like, oh my goodness, I have to decide right now, before we can even start dating, if I'm *ever* willing to go rock-climbing at all. Making it into this huge issue. Why is it such a huge issue? Why is rock climbing even associated with dating at all? And actually, we're not even talking about rock climbing, we're talking about something even weirder: exposing your genitals to each other. And then touching them together. And then moving around vigorously. ?????? Why on earth would that be something you're expected to do, just because you're dating someone?

I'm married. When I started dating my husband, I didn't know I was ace, and I believed unmarried sex was a sin. I've never had the experience of trying to get into a relationship, knowing that I'm asexual, and knowing that most people have sexual attraction and view sex as a normal thing. Other aces are in a totally different situation than me. What Alice is dealing with in this book definitely is a real ace experience. I do want to understand it more. I just feel very boggled.

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Takumi's view of sex

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At the end of the book, Takumi says that he's not asexual, and for him, sex is a way to express his love to someone. This is an idea I've heard before- perhaps a lot of allosexual people feel this way? Like you want to passionately express your love to your partner, and sex feels like the way to do that.

I'm actually really curious about people's opinions on the connection between sex and love. (Feel free to leave a comment on this post!) Takumi's opinion here is not intuitive to me at all. And actually, he says that he realized Alice still has those passionate feelings for him, even though she doesn't want to have sex with him, and that's why he finally decided he's okay with dating her without sex. This also strikes me as weird- do a lot of people think being uninterested in sex means that you don't love your partner? How odd... Do people really think that?

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You know... I dated a few guys when I was in college, and I never sat them down for a "we're not going to have sex" talk. It never even occurred to me, because the idea of *me* having sex was just so outlandish. (And also, purity ideology teaches that good moral people are of course all trying not to have sex but sometimes it "just happens" because they "fall into temptation"- so, the idea of having an honest conversation about what each person wants doesn't really figure into that anywhere at all.) But, they knew I wasn't willing to have sex with them, just because I was very involved with Christian groups, and "purity" would come up in conversation pretty often. For me, it was this very abstract theoretical thing. I never ever thought of it as "and therefore, I *specifically* will not have sex with you, my boyfriend, *specifically*" because I had no awareness that anybody was having sex at all, except married couples.

Now that I know I'm ace, occasionally I think back to those relationships and I wonder if the guys I dated wanted to have sex with me. It always strikes me as such a surprising and odd question to ask. I definitely never thought about it back then.

Alice is only 19 years old. When I was 19, I would not have been able to handle the information that people I knew were having sex and it was fine for them. I would not have been able to handle the question of whether *I* could or should be having sex. I mean, obviously I did not want to have sex- but if I had known it was an actual possibility, I would have endlessly worried about whether I was "missing out" on it, like maybe there's some *reason* that most people are interested in sex, and I can't figure out what the reason is but apparently it's a really big deal, and I need to understand this reason, and maybe I should be having sex too, if I don't understand the reason then how can I be so sure it doesn't apply to me, and on and on and on. Back then, I wouldn't have been confident enough to say "yes, most people my age are having sex, but I know myself well enough to know that I don't want to, and therefore it is right for me to not have sex." Ugh, just gives me so much anxiety, imagining this alternate universe where high-school-Perfect-Number wonders if she is supposed to be having sex just because most other people are.

(Instead I had purity-related anxiety, which is also bad! And instead of "you're supposed to be having sex if you're dating", I was taught "you're supposed to be having sex if you're married" which is bad too!)

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Conclusion

Overall, I thought it was a fun read. Takumi and Alice were cute together. I think the way the book explores Alice's asexuality can be helpful for readers who are trying to figure out their own asexuality. 

But, also, I am so confused about why it was such a big deal, this question of whether or not Alice can date if she's not willing to have sex. I'm just so baffled at the idea that sex and dating would be so closely bound together like that- which everyone in the book seems to just take for granted. But, apparently this is a real thing. I have heard aces say they had these same experiences- having sex they didn't want just because they believed you're "supposed to" if you're dating, worrying about how or when to tell a potential partner that you're ace, feeling like dating isn't even worth trying at all because you'll be expected to have sex, etc. These are real ace experiences (which actually seem to be pretty common- I've seen a lot of these things discussed on ace blogs) but are so incredibly different from my experience as an ace in purity culture.

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Blue Ice-Tea wrote a post related to this one: Do Ace Stories Contribute to Compulsory Sexuality?

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Related:

Let me tell you about a fanfic that reminded me of my marriage

On Purity, Asexuality, and Timing

"How Far Is Too Far?" My Story, And What I Wish I'd Known 

We didn't know what sex was, just that it was bad

Monday, February 13, 2023

Blogaround

1. The Difference Between Mental Illness and Demonic Possession (February 1) "Yes—in the early 1990s, I think I participated in group exorcisms where the subjects were mentally ill, and not demon-possessed at all. And I wonder if I did more harm than good." An article about how to tell the difference. Personally, I believe demons probably do exist, but I don't think I believe any anecdotes I've heard from actual people about their actual experiences encountering an actual demon. Just seems so incredibly unlikely that a person would actually encounter one and also be able to figure out that's what it was.

2. Perspective: What pictures of abortions can and can’t do (February 6) This is a good article about the topic of what a fetus looks like- from the pregnancy apps happily declaring "your baby is the size of a blueberry!", to the abortion activists showing photos of fetuses after they have been damaged by the abortion process, to the women who had miscarriages and want to find the body and lovingly bury it. 

Personally, I don't like how images are used by both the "pro-life" and pro-choice sides, to either say "this is totally a baby!" or "this is just a meaningless clump of cells" because both of those are inaccurate and are trying to manipulate the images to support their argument, rather than trying to actually get at the truth of what a fetus looks like.

And I'm also uncomfortable with the idea that the physical appearance of the fetus should have any place in arguments on the legality of abortion. I think pregnant people should have accurate information- no hiding the fact that it does have tiny baby features, but also being realistic about when these things develop during pregnancy (the first trimester is completely different from the third trimester)- and then make their own decisions.

3. The Ant and the Universe (February 4) "The rubber band starts out one meter long, and stretches out one meter per second. This is one of those magical math rubber bands that can stretch indefinitely."

4. Stop praising Pastor Andy Stanley for pretending to love gay people (January 25) WELL-SAID.

I posted the link Andy Stanley's comments a few weeks ago (about how gay Christians who attend church are very committed to the church, and the church is lucky to have them, and straight Christians should learn from them). He's right, and it's something that conservative Christians need to hear- but don't take it to mean Stanley is queer-affirming or anything like that. It's quite possible he's just on the nicer end of "hate the sin, love the sinner."

Queer Christians know all about Christians who say very nice things about queer people but when it comes right down to it, you eventually figure out they don't support queer rights at all.

5. Enhanced clobber-texting methods (February 7) "A clobber text permitting torture would have been trumpeted by the advocates of 'enhanced interrogation techniques' as the definitive biblical word settling the matter beyond dispute, but a clobber text prohibiting the practice would have been relegated to endless exegetical dissection."

The Slacktivist has it exactly right. It's not just the clobber text itself- a bible verse that clearly says "don't do X", where X is whatever culture war issue is being debated. It's the whole culture around how to read the bible, how some verses are treated as more important than others because, uh, because, well, because... because... well, it's just obvious, and anyone who brings up a bible verse that says differently is "twisting Scripture."

6. Grace Community Church Rejected Elder’s Calls to ‘Do Justice’ in Abuse Case (February 9) [content note: domestic violence, coverup, spiritual abuse] "'They sided with a child abuser, who turned out to be a child molester, over a mother desperately trying to protect her three innocent young children. And that was and is flatly wrong, and needs to be made right,' Cho said to CT. 'Numerous elders have admitted in various private conversations that ‘mistakes were made’ and that they would make a different decision today knowing what they know now. But those admissions mean you need to make it right with the person you wronged; that is utterly basic Christianity.'"

7. Revival comes, again, to Asbury University (February 11) and Asbury Professor: We’re Witnessing a ‘Surprising Work of God’ (February 13) So... the story here is that Asbury University (a Christian university in Kentucky) had a chapel service last Wednesday, and people continued to stay there and sing worship songs and make public confessions and so on, for days... this chapel service is continuing for days (I am not sure if it's still going now or not- didn't find an article that said it ended...)

And yeah people are saying it's "revival" and "God is working" and all that.

So, uh, my thoughts on this:

My first question was, what sort of Christian denomination are we talking about here? What's the background? Is it in any way associated with Pentecostal/charismatic churches? Because, Pentecostal/charismatic churches are really into this kind of thing, they expect it to happen, they know how to set up their church service in such a way that influences people's emotions to make people think "God is working" and all that. So if this is somehow related to Christians who have a Pentecostal/charismatic background, I am not very impressed. But if these are Christians who come from the sort of church background where the worship services are fairly tame and they haven't experienced anything like this at all, well, now that's something. Then it's significant.

Apparently they are non-denominational or maybe associated with Methodists. So, yeah, not Pentecostal/charismatic. Okay, well then, that's unexpected- that makes me more curious about what's going on here.

Basically, I believe that it is totally possible that God does things that affect our physical reality. But, I am extremely skeptical of any actual account of any actual such events. (Oh lol this is kind of the same as what I said about link #1.) 

But hey, maybe this really is God, just deciding for some reason to be affectionate with people in this one particular place and time. 

But, uh, also a lot of it is people spreading the news "there's a revival happening" and then other Christians drive in from other places to see it and participate- so, it perpetuates itself.

I am also very skeptical about the way that people are interpreting this. Like, calling it a "revival." To me it seems more like, a bunch of people having a positive emotional/ spiritual experience- okay, but it doesn't really go any farther than that...? 

I mean, the only really long-term effect I can think of is like... maybe if you're there and you experience it, that feels like strong evidence that God exists and God can be experienced, and that would be something you remember in the future if you're considering the question of God existing/ what religion you are or are not going to identify with. (Oh lol, I just realized the Christianese term I'm looking for here is "it strengthens their faith" wow I'm really out of practice.) Uh, I hesitate about how to word this because I know I have readers who are atheists- basically, I think it's valid to dismiss other people's personal spiritual experiences as evidence for God and/or for a specific religion (because so many people have all kinds of different contradictory spiritual experiences)- but if it's your own spiritual experience, that's different.

When Christians see things like this and say "God is working," I think one of the main things they mean by "working" is "God is going to convince people to convert to Christianity." Which... I mean, that's just an interpretation. Just because a lot of Christians are having an emotional experience singing worship songs... like what does that have anything to do with non-Christians converting to Christianity? It's totally not connected- but in a certain type of Christian ideology, God being present and powerful means that God is going to convince non-Christians to believe in Jesus. In that ideology, it's connected.

One of my concerns is that when people have a spiritual experience like this, it confirms whatever religious ideology they already believe in. Who knows, maybe God is like "I choose, for my own ~mysterious reasons~ to create a spiritual experience for these people, even though they have a lot of very incorrect beliefs about me" (and really, doesn't everyone have a bunch of incorrect beliefs about God? They are beyond our understanding, that's kind of Their thing...) and then people take it to mean "oh, it really is true! All the beliefs I have about God really are true!" That's kind of a jump in logic (jump from "the spiritual world exists" to "God wants people to become Christians"- yeah, it doesn't follow).

And then I saw this tweet, which makes a good point:

YES! I think it's a little weird putting so much emphasis on emotional experiences... (Hence my side-eye towards the Pentecostal movement...) Like, I believe God is with us ALL THE TIME. And we already know what They want us to do: Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly before God. You don't need a "spiritual experience." Go do it.

Friday, February 10, 2023

I'm in the US (why don't y'all wear masks?)

A sign that says "Masks are optional." Image source.

Complete list is here: Index of Posts About the March 2022 Shanghai Covid Outbreak 

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Hi everyone, just wanted to put an update here and say I'm in the US! After being stuck in China for 3 years! (I mean, not literally stuck, it was easy to leave China and hard to get back in...)

My son and I are here on vacation for a few weeks, and then back to China. Fortunately, China no longer requires a quarantine when entering the country. All that's required is 1 negative nucleic acid test before you get on the plane. (There have been so many versions of the rules about getting into China during the past 3 years- the policies have changed a whole bunch of times. Now it's so easy though- just 1 nucleic acid test.)

How do I feel about being in the US? Well, it's great being here, but the really weird thing is I don't feel like I've been gone for 3 years. (Sort of like the mirror of what I wrote in this 2013 post.) Everything seems so natural and like I fit right in. I guess this is a kind of reverse culture shock.

It's great, and I don't want to be away for 3 years again. In the Before Times, I came to the US twice a year. That was a good amount- I want to do that. And I can now, because zero-covid has ended and it's no longer hard to get into China. (I mean, China is still not issuing tourist visas, but for people who legitimately live there- like me- it's not hard to get into China.)

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Why don't y'all wear masks?

Like, this strikes me as super weird. We get off the plane, walking around in the airport, and most people aren't wearing masks. ??? Why not? You're in an airport. Why would you not wear a mask?

And basically everywhere we went, in public, sometimes crowded places- most people are not wearing masks. Why not???

I have some thoughts about it, but since I'm on vacation I don't want to spend time blogging about it now, so I guess maybe I'll write a post on it some other time.

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A few other covid-related differences

So, at a lot of stores in the US, they have plexiglass set up in front of the cashier, so you're not breathing on them. I've never seen that in China.

Also, apparently, in the US, social distancing was a real thing. There are marks on the floor showing you where to wait in line, and people actually did that. In China, we had the marks on the floor, but nobody ever paid attention to them. We barely did any social distancing. With a few exceptions: I remember at Shanghai Disneyland, the employees were enforcing social distancing at some of the places where you wait in line, and when you meet a character there are marks on the ground showing that you have to stand a certain distance from them- and that's enforced. And during the Shanghai lockdown when we all got mass-tested every 2 days, they were telling us we had to stand in line 2 meters apart, and people actually paid attention to that and did it. (Definitely not everybody did it though.)

I think in China, there is just less of a concept of having "personal space." Like when you wait in line, the person behind you is RIGHT THERE, and that's just seen as normal. If you left a bit of space, people would think you're not actually in the line, and they'd cut in front of you. So social distancing never really caught on. Also, the Chinese government needed to make covid rules that were an absolute thing- having a vague sense that probability generally increases as distance decreases just wouldn't have fit into the policies.

I've also heard people in the US talking about staying a certain distance away from someone who might have been exposed to covid, and calculating which day they would be contagious if in fact they were infected- and we just never really did any of that in China. Like, they either label you a close contact and put you in quarantine, or they don't. There's no "well, it's probably fine if you stay X distance away from them/ if they were exposed yesterday because they won't be contagious yet/ etc."

The key thing here, I think, is that in the US, everyone's on their own. So you assess the risk to you as an individual. If there's a 1 in 1000 chance you could get covid, well, that's pretty small, so you don't worry about it. But in China, the government was trying to stop 1 billion people from having covid. If there's a 1 in 1000 chance that someone has covid, and over the course of several weeks there have been thousands of people identified who are in that situation, well probably at least one of them really does have covid, and we just can't have covid-positive people walking around in society, so we have to quarantine ALL of them.

(Of course, this isn't the case any more, because the zero-covid policy has ended, and the Chinese government is just letting everyone have covid now.)

So for Chinese people, the set of things that would get you put into quarantine is a much bigger set than the things that make you have a high probability of actually having covid. I think it will take some time for me to work out what the actual risk to me is and how to go about life.

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Links

A few links on the goings-on in China:

Sixth Tone: 

‘It’s Finally Over,’ Say Doctors in China as COVID Cases Ebb (February 9)

SHINE:

Suishenban now offers free Chinese-English PCR tests (February 7) 

Monday, February 6, 2023

Blogaround

1. I find myself listening to "Into Jesus," a DC Talk song from 1998. DC Talk was my favorite band back then, and turns out I'm still into Jesus.

2. This post from Coyote (January 21) about how much ace discussion has developed since 2010. This is great.

Another one from Coyote: Dogmatic Positivity and the Terrible Neutrality of Hope (February 1) "Alternatively: dogmatic positivity is creepy as all get out, and here's why." I especially appreciate the mentions of Plugged In- a conservative Christian movie review site, which I used to read and really take seriously. (In the years since I've become ex-evangelical, I've occasionally visited Plugged In again, and I just find it so unintentionally hilarious, how extremely concerned the whole thing sounds as it describes small mundane things that happen in movies.)

3. This tweet:

4. Holes, Through a Folkloric & Spiritual Lens (2019) "Every bit of fortune Stanley gets, he tells his family it is only fair that Zero gets half because Zero was there through it all and did half the labor, even if records and destroyed and no one remembers his name."

5. How our view of creation and incarnation shape our view of intersex people (January 18) "To frame the incarnation as God’s becoming human in overflowing love is to affirm the goodness of human bodies and sexuality and the fulness of God experienced in them. And thus, when we see intersex people in light of an incarnation of overflowing love, we no longer experience brokenness, but infinite wholeness."

6. Hippolytus: Asexuality and Ancient Greece (2018) "Regardless of whether we can use modern terms like 'asexual' to map ancient identities, here is a clear-as-day self-identification of ‘someone who has no urge for sexual activity’, which, whether we call it 'asexual' or not, is completely relatable, at least from my modern asexual perspective."

7. St. ELIZA, pray for us (February 1) "I don’t care much whether or not someone programs a thousand AI bots to offer up perpetual vain repetitions as do the heathens, but the idea of replacing the human presence at the bedside of the sick or by the side of the lonely seems far more troublesome."

And another one also from the Slacktivist: The other way around (More on slavery and ‘how to interpret the Bible’) (February 3) "These white Christians were people who claimed to be guided by the Bible above all. It was, they said, the central authority shaping their belief, their behavior, and their choices. And so these white Christians sought out the best and clearest explanations of what the Bible — the Word of God — taught and required of them with regard to the practice of slavery. They listened closely to 'debates' over the meaning of biblical teaching on slavery and found the arguments offered by the pro-slavery side to be simpler, clearer, easier to follow, and therefore more compelling and persuasive. And thus, persuaded by such powerful biblical arguments, they subsequently came to believe that slavery as practiced in America was something acceptable, respectable, and blessed by God." The Slacktivist calls bullshit on this.

Friday, February 3, 2023

Top 14 Posts of 2022

Dog using a laptop. Image source.

Hi readers! It is now 2023, so it's time for the roundup of my top posts for 2022.

Top 6 posts by pageviews:

1. On Gynecologists and Angry Turtles. "And if you can't get 2 fingers in, and also you don't have access to lube, and you're about to go to your first gynecologist appointment and I've made you super-nervous about it, well... sorry I guess? Sorry we live in a world where girls who don't even have access to lube are expected to just let other people stick things in their vagina. Like you don't even own your body, but someone else does."

2. Wow, the Anti-China Bias in Western News Media. "CNN reads like 'this shows that 'zero covid' is BAD, everyone hates it, China should stop.' Sixth Tone reads like 'nobody is questioning the 'zero covid' strategy. But we all agree that Xi'an is doing a terrible job of it.'" I wrote this before the Shanghai lockdown, actually, and I wouldn't write it the same way now. But yes, I am still very much NOT IMPRESSED with how CNN and other western news sources reported on zero-covid. They really did not give a good picture of what's actually going on in China. They seemed to start with idea that the Chinese government is evil and doing everything wrong, and every single news story needed to be tied back to that.

3. Someday Dave Ramsey will have to stand before God and explain why he fired a pregnant woman. "Here, everyone, let's turn in our bibles to Genesis 38 and read the story of Onan. A story that everyone thinks is about making rules about sex, but is actually about cutting vulnerable people off from their source of income."

4. I Guess I Shouldn't Be Surprised How Fast Omicron is Spreading in China. "I could scroll through my WeChat right now and probably find 50 covid-positive people. This thing is EVERYWHERE." This was right after the zero-covid policy ended. (December 2022)

5. 2 Wrong Ways to Write Bible Stories For Kids. "Or, alternatively, the writers of the children's books don't remove the ****ed-up parts, but they don't comment on how ****ed-up they are. They just say 'and then God commanded Joshua to kill all the Canaanites' and then continue with the story like everything's fine. WTF????? You want to teach your kid to not even notice when a story has genocide in it???????"

6. "Come As You Are" is helpful I guess but not for me. "My main experience reading this book was being completely mystified, wondering what exactly the problem is that Nagoski is even trying to solve. Women, uh, want to have sex more? Okay, then have sex more? Oh but they don't want to. Uh, okay, then don't have sex?"

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And 8 more posts I recommend:

7. Well, the biggest thing that happened this year was the Shanghai lockdown. It was BAD. I'm not going to go through all my lockdown posts and pick out some highlights to share here, because I don't have the emotional bandwidth for that, it was so bad, you guys. We were locked down for 2 and a half months (March 16 to May 31). I'll link the post that has the list of all my lockdown posts: Index of Posts About the March 2022 Shanghai Covid Outbreak. It was bad, it was so bad, you guys.

And I wrote a LOT of covid posts in 2022, and got feedback from readers who really appreciated having my perspective on what it's really like in China (thanks!) but also, ughh I wish I didn't have to blog about covid all the time.

8. Mary's Choice. A bible fanfic where the angel Gabriel first appears to another woman, Susanna, to tell her she will give birth to Jesus, but she says no, so the angel goes to Mary instead.

9. "For Pregnant Women and Nursing Mothers". "The idea that Jesus was describing the human consequences of this disaster, and how, practically speaking, those consequences fall on vulnerable members of society moreso than others. I don't know if I had ever heard that before."

10. In Some Alternate Universe, I'm Writing a Post About Masks and "Causing to Stumble". "It was all fake. All that stuff about loving your neighbor. All that stuff about following what the bible says even if it's hard. All the stuff that I took to heart and I thought my Christian role models did too." 

11. "Moon Knight" and Boundaries With God. "After that, I decided I will never have a 'personal relationship with' a god again. I will never worship again."

12. I Would Love to Know If God Intervened to Stop Covid From Spreading in Churches. "Could it be that God intervened at church services to make it less likely for covid to spread there, compared to other in-person events with similar levels of social distancing, mask-wearing, etc? I am SUPER-INTERESTED to hear about any data on that."

13. Sure Of What We Hope For. This is my "I believe in resurrection" post.

14. "The Only Moral Virgin Birth Is My Virgin Birth". "The way I read it is, Mary didn't try to tell Joseph the truth. She didn't give him the chance to believe her or not, because the idea of exposing her whole complicated traumatic personal life to him and then not being believed was just too awful."

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Those are my top posts for 2022. Readers, as always I am interested to hear about what kinds of posts you like and want to see more of. I have a whole ton of stuff in my drafts. So many ideas. Looking forward to another year of blogging~

Wednesday, February 1, 2023

January 2023 Carnival of Aces Roundup: "The Advice You Wish You'd Had"

A typewriter printing a page that say "Advice to my younger self". Image source.

I'm hosting the January 2023 Carnival of Aces, and the topic I picked was "The Advice You Wish You'd Had." 

There were posts submitted by Sildarmillion and me. If anybody else wrote a post and I missed it, please leave a comment :)

From Sildarmillion:

An Essay That Gave Me A New Perspective "The point is that before reading Saah’s piece, I had subconsciously thought of physical intimacy as an all-or-nothing, that the whole point of it was penetrative sex, and reading her piece opened my mind to other possibilities."

The Advice I Wish I’d Had "If I could go back in time, the advice I’d give myself is to view all of these words (sexual, sensual, aesthetic, romantic, alterous, platonic, attraction, desire, love, lust, chemistry, compatibility, erotic, crush, squish, infatuation, limerence) as tools used to convey personal experiences, and not as robustly defined constructs being used in a consistent manner by everyone using them."

From me, Perfect Number: 

Bucket List (a post about being a sex-favorable asexual) "Okay, so the summary of what 'sex-favorable' means to me is: If I could do it all over again, I would have the perspective that 'I would like to figure out sex, and masturbation, someday. Like, that is one of my overall life goals.'"

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This topic- about how to do asexuality 101, how to teach sex ed in a way that's inclusive of aces, how to give relationship advice in a way that's inclusive of aces- is super interesting to me. I grew up in purity culture and had a lot of HUGE misconceptions about what sex even is, which made it impossible for me to realize I was asexual. It seems like a lot of aces spend years not even realizing that asexuality is a possibility, not even realizing that you don't "have to" have sex, etc. I definitely plan to blog about this topic more.

Saturday, January 28, 2023

"Ella Enchanted" Is A Movie About Consent

Ella and Prince Char. Image source.

[content note: spoilers for "Ella Enchanted" (2004 movie)]

I recently watched "Ella Enchanted" and was struck by its message on the importance of consent. Let's talk about it.

Here's an overview of the story: It's a fairy-tale setting, with magic. Ella (Anne Hathaway) is a girl who was given the "gift of obedience" by a fairy- meaning that anytime anyone orders Ella to do something, she is compelled to do it. This is a huge issue because it means she's extremely vulnerable. Anyone who knows about the "gift" can take advantage of her and make her do anything (and indeed, one of Ella's stepsisters figures it out and uses it against her). Really it's a curse rather than a "gift." Ella goes on a journey to get rid of the curse, and along the way meets Prince Char and they fall in love and end up together in the end.

This wasn't the first time I'd seen "Ella Enchanted." I saw it long long ago, back when I was an evangelical Christian, and the lens that I viewed it through was the idea that obedience is a virtue. Yes, when I was a little kid, I was taught by Sunday school teachers/ Christian books/ etc that obedience is a virtue. We're supposed to obey God/ our parents/ rules.

So back then, my evangelical take on "Ella Enchanted" was that in general, obedience is a good thing- but in this story in particular, there were people ordering Ella to do things that weren't good- and it's not okay that her "gift" required her to obey those.

In other words, I thought, obedience is a good thing, but with a few caveats.

I don't believe that any more. I don't believe obedience is inherently a good thing. I don't believe trust is inherently a good thing. I don't believe loyalty is inherently a good thing. Trust and loyalty can be good, but only if there are good reasons why that person deserves your trust/loyalty. As for obedience... I'm having trouble thinking of a situation where obedience is a good thing. Perhaps obedience is only a good thing in the case of a child obeying a parent about basic health/safety things, like "you need to brush your teeth every day." But even that is just a temporary situation; long-term, you want your kid to brush their teeth because they understand the health benefits, not because of "obedience." The only other situation I can think of where obedience is a good thing is if you're in some kind of emergency situation and your leader orders you to do something and there's no time to explain to you all the reasons for it, so you just have to trust that they have a good reason (I guess this is how armies work?). But that requires you to have the kind of relationship where you've worked closely together for a long time and you really really trust that if they tell you to do something, there's a good reason for it. But even in that situation, it's still not really ideal... you should still be held accountable for your actions, and "I was just following orders" is not gonna get you out of trouble, if someone ordered you to do a thing that seemed bad, but you trusted and obeyed them, and it turns out that yes, that thing you did really was bad. So again, it comes back to choosing whether or not to put your trust in someone- and if you choose wrong, that's on you- trust is not inherently a good thing.

So, back then I watched "Ella Enchanted" through the lens of "obedience is a good thing, with some caveats." But this time when I watched it, knowing what I know now about consent, I was surprised to see how strongly the pro-consent message is in this movie. Like, wow, I love this. It makes a lot more sense to view this as a movie about consent, rather than about obedience.

Let's talk about the relationship between Ella and Prince Char. Prince Char has tons of fangirls following him around everywhere, and he is drawn to Ella because she's not like that. She initially doesn't like him because she views him as complicit in the legalized discrimination against elves/giants/ogres, put into law by his uncle, King Edgar. He listens to her- and also listens to an elf and a giant talking about their own experiences under the laws that King Edgar made- and decides to take action to help. And then, the thing that is unique about the way he treats Ella is that he respects her right to consent, unlike anyone else in her entire life.

For example, look at this conversation:

Ella: So, have you seen Slannen? We have to leave. My godmother's on some kind of bender. 

Char: You can't leave now, it's the middle of the night. You have to stay for the party.

Ella: [magically compelled to do what he says] Okay, I'll stay.

Char: ...I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you don't have to stay. I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do.

Ella: Thank you, Char, for everything. So, I'll see you around? [she turns to leave]

Char: But I wish you would stay.

Ella: I guess one more night wouldn't hurt. [she stays]

I love this so much! At the beginning of the conversation, he can tell she doesn't want to stay- and then when she suddenly agrees to it, he feels like something is off. Consent is not just about if someone says "yes", because people can say "yes" to things they don't want, if they are coerced. He can tell from the way she's acting that she doesn't really want to stay at the party, even though she agreed to it- so he tells her explicitly that she doesn't have to do it. 

He's paying enough attention to her to realize that she's agreeing to something she doesn't really want- and it matters to him. He wants her to be free to do what she wants. Nobody in her life has ever cared about her in that way before. Ella's stepsister Hattie figured out that Ella does whatever she's told, and uses it to force Ella to do things. Random strangers tell Ella to do things and don't seem to notice or care about whether Ella wants to. Even Ella's mother sometimes used the "gift" to control Ella, but for "good" reasons like telling her to practice her musical instrument. (It's not okay that her mother did that.) 

Char is different; he doesn't want Ella to have to do anything she doesn't want- even if it's something he thinks is good. He cares about consent. He tells her, "I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do"- and that's a big deal. No one has ever told her that before.

Maybe some people would view it like "If they're forcing Ella to do something bad, that's bad. But if they're forcing Ella to do something neutral or good, well, that's fine." Char does NOT believe that, and that's a big deal. Char truly believes in consent, and I LOVE IT. 

Similarly, typically in conversations about consent, people are only thinking about it in terms of sexual situations- "If they're forcing you to do something sexual that you don't want, that's bad. If they're forcing you to do something non-sexual, well, whatever, not a big deal."

Because yeah, I think this is very important: when I'm talking about consent here, I don't mean in terms of consenting to sex. I think the concept of consent applies in all kinds of situations. It's weird that people seem to only talk about consent when they're talking about sex.

And I love how the movie showed so many different situations where Ella's obedience "gift" was a factor. Her beginning a romantic relationship with Char was just one small aspect of it. Consent should be about everything, not just relationships/sex.

Also, at the end of the movie [spoilers!], when the king had ordered Ella to kill Char, and she was holding the knife trying to stop herself from going through with it, and she ordered herself, "you will no longer be obedient" which finally freed her from the curse- it seemed a little too easy in my opinion, but at the same time, that is how it works in real life. The real-life equivalent to Ella's obedience curse is being a person who just does what other people want you to do, without any awareness about what you want yourself, without believing that your own desires matter. And the way to break out of that is by taking control of your own life, knowing yourself, knowing what you want, confidently pursuing what you want. Changing your thinking so that you believe that your own desires matter.

In real life, yes, the change really does have to come from inside you.

Another observation about "Ella Enchanted"- there were a few characters who figured out that Ella would do whatever anyone told her to. Ella's stepsister Hattie figured it out, and then she told King Edgar. And there's a scene where Hattie suspects that this is true about Ella, so she asks her to do some weird things in order to find out if it really works (and later another scene where King Edgar also does this). And it felt SO REAL, the way Ella is so terrified as she realizes that these other characters have figured out her weakness. Realizing that these people (who probably have bad motives) know that they have the power to make her do anything they ask. That's terrifying. The power dynamics of it.

And one more thing: Ella's mother ordered her to never tell anyone about the "gift", because obviously Ella is incredibly vulnerable if anyone finds this out. Overall, perhaps it was a good thing that her mother gave her an actual magically-enforced order to never tell anyone; otherwise, at some point she may have been magically compelled to reveal it against her will, and her mother's order protected her from that. But also, Prince Char knows something is wrong and is really trying to help her, and she's not able to tell him about the problem. It would have been better if she was able to at least tell him part of it- like "I'm under a magic spell that forces me to do specific thing X" (only mention the specific thing that's currently worrying her- don't mention that this would be true of literally anything that anyone tells her to do, that's just way too vulnerable).

This reminds me of how, because there are societal factors that make it harder to freely consent, society sets up other guidelines to try to correct for it, but those other guidelines introduce new problems. For example, people worry that teenagers are too young to make good decisions about sex- so then they teach abstinence-only sex-ed. Instead of giving teenagers good information and advice on how to make good decisions, adults just make a lot of rules. And maybe these rules do protect from certain risks (protect your daughter from rape by never letting her go on a date), but they cause other problems (encourages your kids to hide things from you/ won't come to you for advice/ they get sex-ed from bad sources instead). Similarly, Ella's ability to consent has been taken away, so Ella's mother "protects" her by also taking away her ability to consent, but in a different way. Maybe it's good that her mother did that, because Ella wasn't able to protect herself, but still the entire situation is so wrong. Wouldn't everything be so much better and healthier if everyone could know their own desires, communicate them clearly, and make their own choices rather than being pressured into anything? (Easier said than done, though- there will always be societal factors making this difficult.)

So anyway, I love everything this movie has to say about consent. It works a lot better if we view it as a movie about consent, rather than obedience.

[content note: abuse. If you want to skip it, scroll down to the image of Ella's martial arts pose as she fights off bandits]

And speaking of situations which are about consent but people wrongly think they are about obedience- well, I have to talk about John Piper's advice to women who are abused by their husbands. (Background info: John Piper is a big-name conservative Christian pastor who believes it's super super important that wives have to "submit" to their husbands, and women should never be in leadership over men because that would be against their God-given nature or something.)

Piper was answering the question "What should a wife's submission to her husband look like if he's an abuser?" (2009 youtube video) He gives a bizarre answer which assumes the issue is that the husband is ordering the wife to do something that God says is a sin. (He gives the example of a husband wanting his wife to participate in group sex.) As if it's about obedience, and the correct order of obedience for a woman is obey God first, and her husband second (and her own desires don't factor into it at all). He then says if it's a different type of situation, "if it's not requiring her to sin, but simply hurting her" then she should "endure" verbal abuse and being "smacked one night" and then go to the church for help.

He's viewing it like it's all about obedience. What are God's rules for this? What is or isn't a sin? What's the right way to get help while still obeying the "submit to your husband" rules? But that's all wrong- it's not about obedience, it's about consent. People deserve to not be abused. People have a right to stand up for themselves. It matters what you want; it's not just about if something is a "sin" or not- if it's not a "sin" but you're still not okay with it, then you absolutely have the right to not consent to it.

(Yeah... you may be wondering why I'm bringing up this one guy's bad opinion from 2009. If you're not connected to evangelicalism and have never heard of John Piper, I'm happy for you. But I used to be in that world, and I viewed him as a trustworthy Christian role model, and really bought into what he said. I truly believed that my own desires and my own suffering didn't matter- all that mattered was, am I sinning or not? am I putting God first? am I obeying God correctly? After you get out of that ideology, it takes a long time to even understand what your own desires are. And actually, immediately after getting out of that ideology, the concept of consent on its own is not that helpful because it relies on you knowing what you want. Hmm this is something I could maybe write about more in another post, if y'all are interested.)

(See also: Libby Anne's responses to Piper's statement, here and here.)

Ella fights off a group of bandits. Image source.

And maybe, to some extent, teaching obedience is the opposite of teaching consent. Obedience says that you should do what an authority figure says- for example, parents, teachers, pastors, boss, God, husband if you're a woman- simply because that's the correct order of the hierarchy, and your own desires don't matter at all. Consent says that your body, your possessions, your time, your emotions, your money, your life plans, all these things belong to you. You should figure out what you want, and make your own decisions. For things that belong to you, it's right and good that you should do what you want- that it should solely be your decision. There's nothing virtuous about handing control over to an authority figure, in the name of "being a good kid" or "obedience" or whatever.

In summary: Now that I know about consent, I recognize the very strong pro-consent messages in the movie "Ella Enchanted" (whereas I never noticed this before, viewing it through an evangelical Christian lens, believing that obedience is a virtue). Prince Char actually cares about what Ella wants, and genuinely doesn't want to force Ella into anything she doesn't want to do. It's not about if the thing she's forced to do is "good" or "bad"- it's inherently wrong for her to be forced into anything, regardless of what it is. Even when she agrees to do what he says, he feels that something is wrong and suspects that she doesn't actually want to, and he explicitly tells her he doesn't want to force her into anything she doesn't want. In that situation, it would have been easier for him to just let her do what he wanted, since she agreed to it- no one could blame him, right? But no, his concern is not meeting minimum standards of human decency so that other people won't judge him. He truly believes that Ella should not be forced into doing things that she doesn't want. This is what it means to truly value consent, and I love it.

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Related:

Let me tell you about a fanfic that reminded me of my marriage 

6 Ways Purity Culture Did NOT Teach Me About Consent

Tickling, Consent, and The Way It Works 

When the Teacher Says, "Don't Look at Your Report Card"

Friday, January 27, 2023

Blogaround

1. This video from Andy Stanley:

Preach! This is so real! 

Huge disclaimer, I don't know anything about Andy Stanley except that he is a famous pastor. Don't take this as evidence that he is LGBTQ-affirming. Lots of Christians say nice things about LGBTQ people, and at the same time hold very bigoted views and want to deny LGBTQ people their rights. But, at least, I am happy to see Stanley has observed how courageous gay Christians are. This is very true.

Also, here's another important perspective- this Twitter thread from Kevin Garcia, who is very unimpressed.

2. Digging Into the Shang Dynasty’s Empire of Bones (January 23) [content note: human sacrifice, photos of ancient skeletons] 

3. The Poor Can’t Afford Not to Wear Nice Clothes (2019) "How do you put a price on the double take of a clerk at the welfare office who decides you might not be like those other trifling women in the waiting room and provides an extra bit of information about completing a form that you would not have known to ask about? What is the retail value of a school principal who defers a bit more to you because your mother’s presentation of self signals that she might unleash the bureaucratic savvy of middle-class parents to advocate for her child? I didn’t know the price of these critical engagements with organizations and gatekeepers relative to our poverty when I was growing up, but I am living proof of its investment yield."

4. Jinger Duggar Vuolo on Growing Up Under 'Cult-Like' Religious Beliefs: 'I Was Terrified of the Outside World' (January 18) "Even when her family went to play a sport called broomball, Vuolo says she felt 'terrified' she might be defying God's will. 'I thought I could be killed in a car accident on the way, because I didn't know if God wanted me to stay home and read my Bible instead.'" This is SO REAL. The idea that we should be suspicious of anything we desire or anything fun, because it might be a sin to pursue those things instead of doing something more "spiritual." The idea that there may be some little thing that God wants you to do, and God is totally in the right to kill you if you don't do it, and really it's your own fault because on some level you "know" that's what God really wanted you to do. And the incredible amount of anxiety that inevitably comes when you take these beliefs seriously and try to live that way.

I'm really glad to see that Jinger got away from her family's cult.

5. When will their churches condemn the Christian nationalism of MAGA politicians? (August 19) "In my context, both of my United States Senators (Marsha Blackburn of Christ Presbyterian Church and Bill Hagerty of St. George’s Episcopal) have used their government Twitter accounts to suggest that Attorney General Merrick Garland and our FBI are corrupt. When efforts to reach them and ask them to delete, retract and apologize for these incitements to violence fail, is it appropriate to request that their churches offer a public statement condemning, or at least distancing themselves from, these abusive behaviors? I think so."

6. Journal Club: The Labour of Love (January 25) This is really interesting because it's about a 2007 paper which talks about the "work" that women with sexual problems in hetero relationships do to figure out how to have sex/ how to deal with their male partner's sexual expectations. I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe this as "work" before, besides me. But yeah it is work. It really annoys me how everyone talks about sex like it's something "natural."

7. I Found The Worst Christian Show (2021) "But at the same time, I had to appreciate this episode if only for its novelty. In a crowded room of pro-life people saying abortion is murder, 'Dream Motel' bravely goes against the grain and says, wait, maybe you shouldn't get an abortion because you might be dead in 10 years. And I think that's beautiful in its own way."

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