I don't have a blog post for today, so let's do another episode of #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Today I'll be livetweeting VeggieTales "God Wants Me To Forgive Them?!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b21_lqLET0s … #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
if you like to waltz with tomatoes up and down the produce aisle—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
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Interesting how this version of the theme song has clips from much more recent veggietales videos—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
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"God Wants Me To Forgive Them?" is the 2nd episode of VeggieTales. From 1994. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
All right Bob & Larry are going to answer your questions #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Bob: "The other day I was walking home from my bowling league..." uhhh how does a tomato bowl................................... #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
"The Grapes of Wrath" omg kids have no idea why this is a joke #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
wowwwww look at these trees, this is the state of animation in 1994 #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Y'all. I had to pause the video and get this screenshot of the trees. You're welcome. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales pic.twitter.com/uhIWubbTjh—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
haha I love this grapes of wrath song #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
lololololol "we must have hit a bump" there's a tree stump there #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
wow oh my goodness the two grapes kids insulting each other, it's HILARIOUS #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
interesting choice for some of the characters to not have eyes #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Pa Grape has no eyes but has glasses #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
OH MY GOD "So that would make him: a cheese-headed bean boy." #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Ahhh poor Junior, the grapes are making fun of him #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
hahahahahhahahahahhaha I am laughing so much because of Pa Grape #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Dad Asparagus explains to the grapes that they shouldn't make fun of people bc it makes ppl feel bad. Apparently they didn't know. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Then Junior's dad explains that he should forgive them. Junior agrees immediately & forgives them & grapes all breathe a sigh of relief #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Oh dear the grapes made fun of Junior's name. they did not really learn their lesson about not being mean to ppl #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Grape kids apologize to Junior. Let's see if he forgives them. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Larry narrates "So once again Junior forgave them."—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Junior is NOT HAVING IT.
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"And you're telling me I'm supposed to forgive them again???" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Ugh I wish somebody would have come and empathized with Junior, like "yeah ppl shouldn't force you to forgive, it's understandable you feel this way, you can take your time" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Haha I love how Bob sets up this question. "We need to know how many times we're supposed to forgive, according to the bible. Maybe.... 7 times?" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Let's see if any of the characters know what 70 x7 is #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Little Girl Grape knows her times tables #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Well once Junior hears that he should forgive 490 times, he's all on board with it #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
omg they are going to be "the grapes of math" now, I love this #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
"with rosie happily quoting a quadratic equation in the backseat..." wow there are so many jokes in here kids would miss, this is hilarious #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Here's an ad for a forgive-o-matic #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Just dial in your sin here, press this button, and god forgives your sins #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
oh my god this potato reading the teleprompter about the steak knives, this is FANTASTIC #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Junior comes in to tell the salesman that God just forgive your sins if you ask. You don't need a forgive-o-matic. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
WAIT the salesman just said you can put a potato in and get fries. that's GRUESOME in a veggie world. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
@pnumber628 Like I said, I'm convinced that cannibalism exists in the Veggie Tales world!—Ahab (@Ahab_Of_Gilead) 2017-11-06
HANG ON I gotta pause the video and laugh about "chia forgive-o-matic" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Bob & Larry are going to tell us about when they learned to forgive #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
oh this is the Gilligan's island episode of veggietales #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
YOU GUYS like how water was animated in 1994—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
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They certainly came a long way from here to Jonah #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
All right I know a lot of this is jokes for the parents about Gilligan's island. I personally don't get them :( #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Hooray we get to see Archibald Asparagus #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Wait wait wait there are some more water screenshots you got to see #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales pic.twitter.com/qCc0hhllIs—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
how are they moving the steering wheel with no hands? (actually, I love when veggietales points this out explicitly- the characters literally ask "how are we doing this?") #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Larry is daydreaming he is a Russion icebreaker pirate #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
2 whales trapped in ice- like their tails are sticking up and wiggling, pirate larry is going to save them! #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
oh no the boat hit a rock when larry was daydreaming #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
haha "at least the boat is still floating" [boat sinks in the background] #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Larry says sorry to the boat passengers- I think if this was a real business situation, the company wouldn't just blame the whole thing on one employee in front of everybody #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Larry tells Bob "I said I was sorry, at least you could forgive me". Bob says "that's not good enough" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Ahhh poor Larry, he is really sad that Bob said he's "not good enough" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Now I can understand Larry being sad, but I think it's a separate issue from "forgiveness" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
the conversation with the rich guy and his wife is also hilarious #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
The professor built a catapult. Hits Bob on the head with a coconut, Bob falls into the rich couple's hut. Everybody is angry. But they learn to forgive! #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
We're going to have to talk about this whole "breathing a huge sigh of relief, it feels good to be forgiven" thing #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
They all realize that Larry must feel really bad bc they didn't forgive him. Empathy! #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
YOU GUYS larry is powering his sailboat by blowing on it #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
"Can you forgive us for not forgiving you?" FORGIVECEPTION #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
wait there is a coconut singing a song about forgiveness all the sudden #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Both the tree and 2 coconuts on it are sentient. What are the rules for this exactly? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Hahaha the professor built a helicopter "entirely out of bamboo and coconuts" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I'm an engineer and I have some questions about this helicopter #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
yay the "what we have learned" song #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
like the funniest part of the "what we have learned" song is how annoyed Bob is about it #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
bible verse says "Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Bob says "so that's why we need to forgive." Kind of ........ way too naïve and simplistic #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
So it's it acceptable for me to express forgiveness by never speaking to my family again, same as Jesus did to me.—Opposite of Amnesia (@salcedony) 2017-11-06
The cucumber said so. https://twitter.com/pnumber628/status/927516329300525056 …
Is there another adult woman asparagus besides Junior's mom? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
All right. That's the end of the episode "God Wants Me To Forgive Them!?!" Now let's discuss. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Again, reminding myself not to be too harsh about "but they didn't explore this particular aspect in great detail" bc it's a show for kids #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
At the same time though, I very much believe it's a sin to teach kids something that's misleading/harmful bc you think "we have to make this topic simpler so kids can understand" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I repeat: It's a sin to teach kids stuff that's misleading and harmful. Jesus had some things to say on this. Involving millstones. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
All right, first of all, this episode of Veggietales, though it was supposedly about forgiveness, never really actually explained what forgiveness is. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Characters were mean or made mistakes that hurt others, & then they said sorry, & then the ones who were hurt said "I forgive you" and everyone is happy #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But what does forgiveness actually *mean* though? Is it just the thing you're supposed to say after someone says "i'm sorry"? That's what it seems to be here. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Let's talk about Junior and the grapes of wrath. He just forgave them for laughing at him, and a few seconds later they laugh at him again! You can understand why Junior would be mad. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But the grapes said "sorry" so then everyone shames Junior into saying "I forgive you" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Like, can't anyone understand what Junior is feeling? He just forgave them and they turned around and betrayed that trust. & dad, Bob, and Larry tell him he needs to forgive again #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
@pnumber628 Expecting people to practice this kind of "forgiveness" is a recipe for doormats, abusers, and toxic relationships.—Ahab (@Ahab_Of_Gilead) 2017-11-06
Everyone acts like Junior is being bad & rebellious for standing up for himself & being angry when ppl break their promise not to make fun of him #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Junior, your feelings matter. It's okay to be angry. It's okay not to forgive, or to take some time before you're willing to forgive. You are allowed to have feelings. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Like, I WISH church ppl had taught me to be like indignant "you're telling me I'm supposed to forgive them AGAIN????" Junior. But instead he's portrayed as doing something wrong. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Instead, church ppl taught me that God requires me to forgive, & having certain emotions abt it is sinful #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales #SpiritualAbuseIs—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
@pnumber628 Ditto. I was told to forgive, but I was never taught anything about self-respect, boundaries, or accountability on the part of the wrongdoer—Ahab (@Ahab_Of_Gilead) 2017-11-06
Why is it so important to Dad that Junior forgives the grapes? They're just random strangers on the street. He doesn't need to ever see them again. Junior can just walk away & protect himself. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I wish church ppl had taught me forgiveness is important if you want to continue to have a relationship w someone, but if you don't want that then you don't necessarily have to forgive #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Like why does Junior have to make himself emotionally vulnerable again, to these random strangers on the street that he'll never see again, after they've just broken their promise not to make fun of him? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
In summary: Perfect Number is totally on team "Junior doesn't need to forgive the grapes a 2nd time" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Next there's the forgive-o-matic commercial. Now this is a little different bc it's about God's forgiveness specifically. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But it didn't explain why we "need" God to forgive our sins. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Also, the 3 (hilarious) examples of "sin" given by the salesman ("you broke your mom's favorite vase & stapled it back together & hoped she wouldn't notice") are sins AGAINST OTHER PPL #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But the forgive-o-matic segment never said anything abt reconciling w other ppl, it was just abt God's forgiveness #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
When Junior shows up to set the salesman straight, he says u can just ask God to forgive u, and God will, it's that easy. No mention of the ppl u hurt though. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Is it assumed that you've already reconciled w other ppl, then? But then why would you still need God to forgive you? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Is it that u don't need to reconcile w ppl, you just need God's forgiveness and you're all set? Because that is messed-up. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Next there's the story of Larry crashing the boat & stranding everyone on an island #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Larry is very sad that they won't forgive him. But why, exactly? What does forgiveness mean and why is it so important to him? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
If it were me that crashed the boat, I would want ppl to understand it was an accident & not blame me too much, recognize we're all in this problem together & it doesn't help to fight... #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
...so is that what Larry wants when he says "at least you could forgive me"? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
If Bob feels like "I recognize that it wasn't really your fault, but i'm still mad about it" I would feel like that's good enough if I was Larry #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I'm not really sure what it even means for Bob to say "I forgive you". Like, they're still stuck on an island. Did not forgiving mean that Bob wasn't willing to work together to get off the island?—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Then the characters accidentally hit each other w coconuts, and learn that they would want to be forgiven for accidents #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But... if I did something accidentally & hurt someone, and they got disproportionately mad & refused to believe it was an accident, I wouldn't get all upset abt not being forgiven #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
If somebody gonna be unreasonable & stay mad at me for something that was an accident & isn't really a big deal, I don't need that person in my life #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I'm not going to pine over "oh if only they would forgive me" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Obviously this depends on my relationship w that person. If it's a stranger or someone not very close, then whatever, I don't need them in my life, i'll treat them politely but I won't get all sad they don't forgive me #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
if it's someone I really care about a lot, like a close family member, then it would really hurt that they didn't believe me/ won't forgive me #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But in church NOBODY EVER said "if you're not really interested in this person continuing to be in your life, then you don't need to reconcile/forgive..." #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
"... some ppl are just unreasonable & you're not required to get yourself all emotionally caught up in their drama" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Maybe this is because children don't really have the option of cutting ppl out of their lives #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Like, as an adult, it's MIND-BLOWING to realize the ppl I spend time with are the ppl I choose to spend time with. if I don't like someone, I can just go ahead & not see them #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Obviously it's more difficult if it's somebody at work or a family member, they're harder to remove from one's life, but it certainly is doable if they really treat you that bad. BOUNDARIES! #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
What i'm saying is, you don't have to forgive everybody, you only have to forgive ppl you want to continue to have in your life #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I wish somebody had told me THAT as a little kid in church #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I think a lot of this teaching on forgiveness is directed towards little kids fighting w their siblings. In that situation, they really do need to learn to forgive & get along. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
But that doesn't mean u ALWAYS have to forgive EVERYONE. But that's what they teach- u always have to forgive everyone #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I remember in college, talking w Christian friends abt how I was struggling to stay friends w my ex- I wanted to be friends & not be mad at him anymore... #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
...& the Christian friends I talked to were like "sure, if you want, but really why do you want that? it's not necessary" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
they said it wasn't necessarily for me to be friends w my ex, and it just didn't make any sense at all to me. no trusted authority figure had ever told me "it's okay to not ALWAYS reconcile & forgive" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Okay where were we? VeggieTales? Let's talk about how they all breathed a sigh of relief when somebody said "I forgive you" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Again, back to my question of what exactly forgiveness means. This was never defined in that veggietales episode. Why is it something that makes ppl feel so relieved? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I think in Christian culture in general, forgiveness is not well defined #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
@pnumber628 Or, it's defined as being a doormat and refraining from holding wrongdoers responsible for their actions, which is toxic!—Ahab (@Ahab_Of_Gilead) 2017-11-06
I see a lot of articles about "5 Things Forgiveness Is Not" and they say forgiveness does not mean you have to reconcile #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Well if forgiveness doesn't mean reconciling, then why would ppl be so relieved to be forgiven? Why are Christians so grateful about god forgiving them? #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Like what if God is like "this doesn't mean i'm going to let them back in my life, but i'm letting go of the anger, to benefit my own emotional health- I forgive them"- now that's not really something that's good for us, is it. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
if Christians are so happy about "God forgave me" then that means they believe forgiveness means God is reconciling w us and not holding our sins against us #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
yet when we talk abt "it's not healthy to require ppl to forgive", church ppl are all like "no no no you misunderstood what forgivenss is, it doesn't mean u have to trust them again & accept them back into your life"—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
There are several competing definitions of forgiveness going around, is what i'm saying #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Point out some emotionally abusive aspect of the teaching abt "forgiveness" & church ppl will come up with a new definition that avoids that particular problem. the whole thing is meaningless. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I refuse to participate in this mangling of the definition of "forgiveness" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I refuse to participate in this campaign to come up with something emotionally healthy that preserves boundaries & prioritizes the safety of those who were hurt, and call it "forgiveness" #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
eff all of that, "forgiveness" is waaaaaaaay past the point it can be reclaimed. (for me) #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
They still require forgiveness, but they try to redefine it into something that sounds emotionally healthy- I ain't participating in that crap #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
In summary: VeggieTales "God Wants Me To Forgive Them!?!" never really defined what forgiveness is, it just seems to be the thing you say after somebody says "i'm sorry" & I am not a fan of this teaching #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
Thank you all for tuning in to this episode of #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
I'll leave you with this: You don't have to forgive everyone. You only have to forgive ppl you want to have a good relationship with. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
If you're not interested in forgiving them, that doesn't mean it's okay for you to be mean to them, though. #PerfectNumberWatchesVeggieTales—Perfect Number (@pnumber628) 2017-11-06
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